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Write to Marry, No on H8te

Just found out that it is “Write to Marry” Day (via veronicaeye on Twitter). Senator Dianne Feinstein says Vote No on 8, because Prop 8 is essentially about discrimination, and we must always say no to discrimination. I agree with Dianne—this proposition is a complete non-starter for me.  I voted yesterday (down at the LA County Registrar-Recorder County Clerk Office) and I voted NO on 8. Here’s to love and marriage for all!

Congratulations to The Ditty Bops, who just got married and want to stay that way past next Tuesday.  The Ditty Bops will be on A Prairie Home Companion on November 7 and 8.  Check ’em out.

The Ditty Bops.  Photo by Renard Garr.

If you live in Los Angeles County and want to vote early, you can go to Norwalk and do it. I recommend getting there early in the day. I stood in line for a little over an hour (the whole process took about two hours). The experience gave me a whole new appreciation for the people who line up for a lot longer. I arrived there around 3:30 pm, so again, go early because the line won’t be as long. The whole thing is very well organized. Be sure to take your sample ballot with you. Don’t forget to vote No on Prop 4 also!


This is a personal blog. Expect a potpourri of stuff.

26 thoughts on “Write to Marry, No on H8te

  1. I am voting yes on Prop 54….




  2. Um, all these people voting early are making me nervous…

    Do we really think it will be that bad on Tuesday? Because I will have a three-year-old boy with me.

    I definitely don’t want to take a three-year-old boy to Norwalk to spend two hours voting.

    I really hope it takes me 15 minutes at my local precinct like usual…. yeeps. Despite it all, I am looking forward to Tuesday!!!

  3. Of course vote NO on PROP 8, PLEASE, but it is a sickening, disgusting vote in the first place.

    Imagine a heterosexual man sitting back peacefully as society voted on whether he, his wife, and his children deserved the rights and protections of civil marriage. What would HE think of PROP 8 in CA? Would he even THINK of opening up his wallet to fund a PR drive to gain a chance to “win” this civil right? O would it be “Live Free or Die”?

    Yet we (the gay community), and our allies have agreed – AGREED – to hash out this “debate” with a public PROP 8 lottery (it’s not a debate…I KNOW I DESERVE MARRIAGE).

    Here’s my “NON-Debate for PROP 8” – It really doesn’t matter what others may “think” or “not think” at this point. La-la-la-la-la-la-la-laah… I will not pay an organization for Human Rights, Family Rights, Civil Rights, or Constitutional Rights. I will simply refuse to file my IRS tax returns until my FAMILY is equal under the law.


  4. Did anyone else get the sleazy “Yes on 8” Mailer With Obama’s face on the front deceptively implying Obama campaign supports 8?

    I personally don’t want a whole bunch of money from Utah trying to amend our constitution.

    No On 8!

  5. Yeah, drubs, I got that sleazy flyer and I know Obama didn’t authorize the use of his photo on it.

    I didn’t know today was an official day of posting about this issue, but I posted about it. It’s important. When it first came up I didn’t think Prop 8 had a chance and it shocks me that it’s even being considered. Then again, we elected W twice.

    I saw that, PA. Very nice.

    AP! Howzitgoin?

  6. Your precious Obama spoke right into the microohone and stated affirmatively that in his opinion, marriage is defined as being between one man and one woman. It’s on record. Dear God, don’t tell me me you disagree with the living Saint! Say it ain’t so, Libs! Support Obama by voting yes on 8!

  7. There are plenty of people who believe marriage is defined as being between one man and one woman who are voting no on 8 because they don’t believe in forcing their beliefs on others, and because they don’t believe in changing our constitution to legislate discrimination. Obama has never said he thinks we should pass Proposition 8. He has never said we should legislate against gay marriage. And if he did I would disagree with him. But I don’t have to agree with him on everything to vote for him. He’s still the better candidate by a long shot.

  8. I was ambivalent about BHO until he double crossed McCain on the campaign finance issue. So no he is not a Saint and now I am enthusiastic about voting for him. He took the fight the Rovians and won!!

    No on 8!!

    Vote McCain/Palin on Wednesday Nov. 5th!

  9. Philadeplhia is STILL celebrating the Phillies win – showcasing why we’re the best sports fans in the country!

    Will probably be doing this until the Eagles win the Super Bowl in a few months.

  10. RE: Philly Fans

    You must me justly proud! I will settle for living in the Crown City jewel of the San Gabriel Valley. Pasadena is lovely place, you would like it. You should come visit sometime.

  11. There are no rights being taken away from anyone. Just good people trying to keep California a place with morality in it’s laws. They can live their lifestyle and get all the same benefits of a married couple, just keep it away from MY children.

  12. Funny how a lot of the same people who came out to vote for “change” also voted to ban gay marriage.

    Let’s face facts, no matter how “progressive” people out there claim to be – you gotta realize that supporting gay marriage (especially if you don’t know a gay person) is still very “Stuff White People Like” (visit to see what I’m talkin’ about) and not too accepted in say, African American or Latino cultures just yet.

    Here’s how you get gay marriage to happen:

    1. Stop making it a GAY issue. If you make it a gay issue instead of a human rights issue you’re going to either a) turn off some people with antiquated values or b) disaffect/not attract the apathetic ‘well, I don’t care about what people do with their lives’ voters (who I’m not criticizing, because that’s fine).

    2. Instead, maybe try to get a proposition passed that says the state can’t say who gets married outside of someone who wants to marry a blood relative or animal. Don’t use the word “gay” or the phrase “same-sex” or anything.

    3. Make sure you’re putting a pro-same-sex marriage prop on an election that minorities aren’t going to vote in. So, wait for an election that doesn’t involve a minority. I don’t think Villaraigosa is going to run for governor.

    Me, being a libertarian with a lower-case l, thinks the government should just stay out of marriage altogether. Get rid of marriage as a tax status and everything (and get rid of the IRS as well!)..just make it some sacred bond between two people or a religious thing or whatever.

    That way everyone is happy and we can focus on things that actually affect all of us – no matter if we are into our own equipment or someone else’s.

    Whether you’re for or against it – you gotta admit that whoever came up with Prop 8 was genius. I thought it was going to die with all the Obama voters but then I forgot about the feelings about gay marriage in certain minority communities.

    I honestly don’t care who is getting married. Doesn’t pay my bills. Doesn’t protect me from terrorists. Doesn’t make my taxes go up.

    Oh, yeah, but I forgot, us Conservatives are gay-hating/bashing weirdos.

  13. “…..3. Make sure you’re putting a pro-same-sex marriage prop on an election that minorities aren’t going to vote in. So, wait for an election that doesn’t involve a minority. I don’t think Villaraigosa is going to run for governor……”

    Hispanics voted for prop 8 at 53%

    53 percent of Hispanics voted yes; 52% of the general the electorate voted yes.

    African Americans who made up 10% of the CA electorate voted 70% for Prop 8.

    This is why your hateful blog had to be taken down. We don’t take kindly to your “blame the Spics first” attitude in Pasadena.

    Prop 8 passed not due due to “minority” turn out or voting. Prop 8 won due to deliberate and hateful misrepresentation of the issues by the yes on 8 campaign that was enthusiastically supported by the christian right, catholics and mormons. Aided by an amazingly inept fight by the no on 8 campaign.

    what a vile troll you are ap.

    Go away.

  14. Oh now stop that. AP is not a vile troll. He is a bratty little brother type. You know the kind that sneaks into your room and leaves a smelly bologna sandwich floating in your fish tank? Didn’t that ever happen to you? Anyone? Oh nevermind… skip it.

    The thing is this: There are rights being taken away from people on the basis of sex. Just as in the past, blacks were not allowed to marry whites based on race. We have laws that state that no one shall be discriminated against on the based on race, religion, sexual orientation, etc.

    We already have the law, and it takes the courts to uphold these laws.

    Yes on 8 achieved the written exclusion WRITTEN and AMENDING our state constitution to provide for a specific EXCLUSION.

    This will not right. It has no congruency with the laws of the land. It’s no different than the South declaring slavery was okay for them even though the North was against it.

    In Europe, just before the Jewish people were sent from places like Hungary to Auschwitz, there was a law in that land that prohibited Jews from marrying other Jews! Don’t you see what this this indicative of?

    I say it’s frightening, but I refuse to kowtow to fear.

  15. “…It has no congruency with the laws of the land……”

    Uh actually it does. Many states prohibit gay marriage by law and the federal gov. passed the Defense of marriage act, so states that prohibit gay marriage don’t have to recognize legal gay marriages performed in states that allow it.

    Still not a justification, it is hateful and wrong. Sadly it is legal.

  16. The Defense of Marriage Act relieves the states from requiring recognition of same sex marriage by way of a special act. I am not a scholar of it, and I do not know what was in Bob Barr’s mind at the time but- I do know he believes in privacy of individuals and families to live the way they want.

    With that, I am interpreting the Defense of Marriage Act to mean–let us not abolish marriage in the third party (government system). The ruling foundation of which remains the unconstitutionality of exclusion from any U.S. institution on the basis of sex/sexual orientation. That must take precedence and it will. This is why the courts ruled non-exclusionary in the first place.

    In my ignorance, I argue that The Defense of Marriage Act discourages amending the state constitution. There is no requirement to recognize same sex marriages. They simply are. It is every persons right, if that’s what they desire.

    The catholic church and the LDS can continue to discriminate since they are private institutions and not part of the government. Although, those organizations both claim they have been attacked by our government institutions for their practices. Isn’t that what their strategy really is?

  17. I think that if a state refuses to recognize a marriage from another state, that is their right. However, it should also mean that they do not recognize any other kind of marriage from that state including opposite sex couples.

  18. Example: All people married outside the state of Utah would be invalid in that state. The couples would have to remarry in Utah.

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